Powerball Australia is drawn once a week, 5 balls from 45, and 1 Powerball from 45. There are 55 million combinations possible, so tracking this game is a long process, over years. At 52 draws a year, it is possible you may not see a particular combination hit for a million years!!! Patience is necessary, to wait until a favourable time, where you can narrow down the more likely combinations. One such time just occured.
On Powerball Australia data, the Saliu ANY5 filters got much bigger for nearly 4 months, also VER5 filter hit an outrageous 1258+, indicating a very “narrow” draw was imminent, ie: all numbers to hit from previous 3 to 5 draws!
To understand more, see Lotto analysis and Ion Saliu
On Thursday 10 April 2008, the inevitable arrived, ALL 5 main numbers came from the last 4 draws (from only 17 unique numbers), and all Saliu Filters went MINUS (except for the Powerball number itself). See chart below:
The best we could hope for Powerball, is a draw where ALL NUMBERS including the powerball, will hit from the previous 3 draws. Too easy to get prizes, or the jackpot in this case, which unfortunately, may occur only once a decade!!! Good luck.
THE TRUTH IS THAT TATTERSALL’S USES 6 DIFFERENT LOTTO MACHINES IN POWERBALL..THE PATTERN IS LIKE THIS E.G. 1/2, 2/3, 3/1, 2/1 ETC, SO IT’S A FALACY TO TRACK THE LOTTO RESULTS DATA PUBLISHED..YOU WOULD NEED TO TRACK EACH MACHINE..IF YOU CONTACT KIM TIERNY, THE VICTORIAN GOV SUPERVISOR AT TATTERSALLS, HE WILL VERIFY THIS FACT..THEY USE DIFFERENT MACHINES IN ALL THE LOTTO GAMES..AND THEY ALTERNATE..YOU CAN OBTAIN A DRAW ROSTER FROM TATTERSALLS..
SO IN ORDER TO USE ANY “SOFTWARE” TO TRACK ANY TATTERSALLS LOTTERY GAME, YOU WOULD NEED TO TRACK EACH MACHINE..AND KNOW WHICH MACHINE IS GOING TO BE USED FOR A PARTICULAR DRAW..
MY TWO CENTS
DENNIS
Hi Dennis, thanks for the truth, it rings sweetly in my ears always.
Any honest scientist or seeker should go for truth.
TATTERSALL’S USES 6 DIFFERENT LOTTO MACHINES IN POWERBALL, so you
reckon its impossible to track lotto/powerball results to derive any
meaningful significance? You would be very correct, if working on the
Roulette BIASED WHEEL method, looking for significantly biased lotto
machines. Machine bias is a powerful method, but has its weakness, for
reasons you understand – they can change the machine on you, the rats.
I prefer to use the methods of Ion Saliu,
and my own developing ideas, gleaned from years of REAL WORLD
observational results, not just academic thinking. It is pointless to
discuss the movement of lotto numbers through time, with anyone who has
discounted the idea as impossible already.
Probability drives the engine of random fields.Its all about how you
choose to view your reality. Numbers can be looked at in an infinite
number of ways. Probability tells us what is normal, for any event with
given variables. Over time (many such events), strange clusterings form
into seeming order (look at evolution). I look for the EXTREMES, the
big variations from the norm, as these events point to other extremes
to occur in future, in order to balance. All EXTREME VARIATIONS in ANY
set of RANDOM events, will always balance to zero, given time (many
events). This is our benchmark.
When playing roulette, you could track one wheel, or you could track a row of
10 wheels, it doesn’t matter, they will all conform to law, and extreme
variations will be lining them up for a more predictable outcome. Just
do the work, you will SEE it happen time after time. Number must
balance to zero.
So in answer to you Dennis, I don’t care if Tattersals use 1000
machines or more, they will ALL CONFORM TO LAWS OF PROBABILITY, and any
EXTREMES will stick out like dogs balls.
G
Prediction:
Tonight’s Powerball draw is very difficult to pick, but I will say this:
We may see 1-2, or NO numbers hit from the previous 3 draws. These numbers are highly UNLIKELY to hit tonight:
8 16 17 21 22 28 30 32 37 40 41 42
Best guess for tonight, well, the following 7 numbers may see some hits soon…
3 5 7 9 20 27 29
its not difficult to predict the MOST PROBABLE if you have “accurate information” an “data” to analyse…:)
my two cents
Firstly Dennis, you say… “i am in contact with the Government supervisors who oversee the draws..”
Can you tell me why Troy Ellis presents only the Powerball Results on Thursday nights, and does NOT show the LIVE draw anymore? Powerball Australia has not shown LIVE draws for 2 months now, whats up?
On the subject of seperate data for each machine, for lotto and powerball draws, I am convinced that a POOL of random numbers works fine, as in the end, its ALL random numbers. We are looking for specific variations or some “order” in the random. I believe that as long as the field size is the same, it matters not how they are drawn. I have seen this in real life too many times.
I have also sent you a private email to the address you provided, for more info.
they dont conduct live draws since 1999 when the lotto machines malfunctioned now since that time they record the draw .and show later on tv
Well now they don’t even show the recorded version of balls dropping, just results. Are they for real?
Critics like to argue that systems are useless because lottery numbers are randomly drawn. But anyone who has actually taken the time to study and analyze the past action of winning Lotto numbers can see that patterns do exist. And biases do occur, which can be used to our advantage when we choose our numbers.
The question is, just how random is the output of mechanical machines that blow ping pong balls around? Not as random as those unenlightened critics like to think they are.
well u are in nsw.. and even here they do the same..but its not live anymore, but recorded..
AS a professional Lottery handicapper i would like to dispel certain misconceptions and myths about lottery theory and prepositions which has been disseminated and circulated by various current and contemporary software programs and books and so called “experts”. The scope of this discussion is also to clarify theoretical positions and philosophies concerning random numbers and concomitant predictions.
The Great Myth of Lottery Theory
The Great Myth of Lottery Theory is, in a nutshell, is along the lines of this:“All numbers of a lottery should, on average, be picked a certain number of times. For example, if there are 48 numbers in a lottery,
each number should be chosen once every 48 times (or 1:48 odds). If this number has not been picked in this timeframe, then it is overdue. Therefore, the odds of this number being picked has increased from the 1:48 odds.”
A corollary to this theory concerns “hot” numbers, viz., numbers which have been picked more often than the statistical average.
This argument may seem reasonable, at first thought. But it is completely invalid. This clever argument is what is known as a logical fallacy, also known as a non-sequitur.
Almost all lottery software programs rely on, and are based on, this fallacy, which can be proved to be invalid through strong inductive, deductive and statistical analysis.
Actually, this argument would be valid if the lottery balls came from a single, non-replenishing pool. For example, suppose there were a barrel of 48 balls, numbered from one to 48. Each lottery drawing chooses six
balls from this pool, but the chosen balls are never returned. Eight drawings of six numbers are pulled from this barrel. For the first drawing, the odds of any single number being drawn is 1:48. But because the balls are
not returned, the odds of drawing a particular number increases (if that number has not already been drawn).
For the second drawing, the odds increase to 1:42. Third drawing, 1:36. And so on until the final drawing
pulls the remaining six numbers from the barrel, when the odds are 1:1, or 100% chance that the remaining six
numbers will be picked.
But that is not how lotteries work. After each drawing, the number pool is reset, back up to the full set.
1 Similarly, roulette replenishes its number set after every draw
The Great Truth of Lottery Theory
True random numbers cannot be predicted. The lottery balls have no memory of which should be pulled, or which is overdue to be pulled. Neither do the lottery machines. Similarly, in the casino game of roulette, you
can, for example, have black numbers hit eight times in a row. The odds of the next number in the series being red is still, and always, 50% (even though the odds of having a run of nine black numbers in a row is 29, or
1:512).2 For simplicity, we are disregarding the one (European) or two (American) green (vigorish) numbers.
The truth is that mechanical methods of lottery drawings are not truly random.
They are very close to random, but not perfectly random. Even with lottery officials’ attempts to make the drawings random, some weighted influence can alter the randomness. For example, does the weight of
the ink on the balls have an effect? After all, the number “38” has over eight times the weight of ink than “1”.
Some balls have more ink than others, so there must be a weight variance. Are the balls of exactly the same
thickness? Certainly not; plastic manufacturers generally cannot keep tolerances tighter than ±0.005″ (±0.127
mm). Different thicknesses mean different weights. Although the weight differences are small, they still could
(and probably do) effect whether some balls get picked more often than others.
Some countries use wheels, instead of balls, to select the winning numbers. Are the wheels in perfect balance?
Is the wheel spun with exactly the same torque? At the exact same starting position? The answer is, of course,“no”.
For one who wants to win the lottery, the challenge is in finding these subtle non-random influences.
A popular Academy-award winning movie, “A Beautiful Mind” (which was based on the book of the same name), exemplifies this concept: the Nobel Laureate and mathematician John Nash had the uncanny ability to
see patterns in encrypted messages that were, for all practical purposes, “invisible” to the ordinary person.
His abilities were, indeed, an anomaly. Very few people have this skill. Computers, on the other hand, are uniquely adapted to this type of task, given their extraordinary speed of computation and extrapolation.
To illustrate my point. in Keno that’s drawn daily in Victoria they use two machines each with its own set of keno balls and alternate the machines every draw..so in reality, we are playing two different 20/80 Keno games..let look at two draws just to see the reality..if we are tracking each individual machine
Keno Machine 1:
Tatts Keno Draw No: 7067
Draw Date:02.04.08
02-04-11-12-16-22-23-26-29-35-38-39-57-61-62-64-66-70-77-78
Tatts Keno Draw No: 7069
Draw Date: 30.04.08
04-12-14-16-18-20-22-25-28-33-36-37-38-49-54-61-70-76-79-80
Game 7069 had:
10 Adjacent Numbers Drawn from the previous draw.
07 Repeat Numbers Drawn from the previous draw.
06 ODD Numbers and 14 EVEN NUMBERS DRAWN
13 Numbers Drawn in the lower half eg low 1-40 hi 41-80
Neigboring Pairs Hit 1 time: 11-12, 22-23, 36-37, 38-39, 61-62, 77-78, 79-80
Neigboring Triads Hit 1 time 36-37-38
now imagine thousands of draws, the percentages u would see..
Let’s take another example Wed Tattslotto 6/40 + 2 Bonus
They use two machines each with its own set of LOTTO balls and alternate the machines every draw..so in reality, we are playing two different6/40 + 2 BONUS LOTTO games..let look at two draws just to see the reality..if we are tracking each individual machine
428,20080409,40,02,25,09,12,05,11,18
430,20080423,11,26,04,24,20,06,30,18
Game 430 had: 6 Adjacent numbers drawn from the previous draw
Game 430 had: 2 repeat Numbers drawn from the previous draw
Even though numbers are Randomly Drawn, they form patterns that are to a certain extent predictable.
Wednesday, 14 April 2004
The new Monday and Wednesday Lotto game goes on sale on 15 April, with players waiting for The Big One to drop now having the incentive of an additional $30 million in Divisional prizes.
Lotto has undergone its biggest changes since the game was introduced in 1979, including a new ‘Cash Rolldown’ concept set to make many more Lotto players’ dreams come true.
NSW Lotteries is the first lottery operator in Australia to implement a ‘Cash Rolldown’ concept, which will see double the normal payouts for winners in Divisions Two to Five when there is no First Division winner.
The changes will also reward the vast majority of Lotto winners by offering set dividends in Division Four and Division Five, guaranteeing players a $20 prize in Division Four and a $10 prize in Division Five every week.
“The benefits for players do not end here,” said John Vineburg, NSW Lotteries Communications Manager. “The addition of the 45th ball brings Monday, Wednesday and Saturday games into line, which means players can enter their favourite numbers in all three draws by using a single entry form”.
Mr Vineburg said as a result of these changes, the odds of winning Division 1 in a single draw with the most popular 14-game entry were 504,218 to 1 and will be 581,790 to 1* and there would be a small price rise of 5 cents per game.
“The price of Lotto hasn’t changed since it was launched at 25 cents a game back in 1979. In those days, that was enough to buy a newspaper or a cup of coffee and still have change. By keeping the increase as small as possible we can fund the extra prizes while maintaining Lotto’s affordability as the cheapest lottery game.”
Mr Vineburg added that extensive research involving more than 1500 players had revealed that players believed the slight increase in odds and price were a fair trade-off for these new benefits, particularly as the price had remained unchanged since 1979. “The prize return for Lotto players is one of highest paid by any lottery in the world, and dollar for dollar, it will remain just as high after the Lotto game changes,” he said.
Other changes to Lotto include a two-week Multiweek option so players can now play Monday, Wednesday and Saturday Lotto for 2, 5, 10, 25 or 50 weeks. This feature will benefit those players who can’t get to their local agent every week but don’t want to risk missing out on having a ticket in the draw when their numbers come up.
The new Monday and Wednesday Lotto televsion draw on Channel 9 will also have a brand new look with a new set and a new ball drawing machine to debut on the first draw after the changes on 19 April.
*Changed on 21 April to clarify odds.
San Francisco Chronicle – 13 February 2002 “Take the fortune in your bank account. Buy 41,416,353 Super Lotto Plus tickets, one for every possible combination. Then, no matter the winning number, you win. Sound impossible? It’s been tried before. In 1992, a group of Australian investors — led by math whiz Stefan Mandel — decided they could literally buy the $27 million jackpot in the Virginia state lottery.”
Holding the winning ticket, the Australians walked away with
$27 million.
Lotto as it has been played since it’s inception is a thing of the past in Australia!
“Is OzLotto, whether you play it in Victoria or at any other state lottery other than Victoria is still the Lotto you have always played. That is, a game that is actually a CONTINUOUS, never-ending SERIES of games involving 7 numbers chosen at random from the 45 numbers available.”
For the uninitiated, the player tries to guess what numbers will come up in each game. Players can pick from 7 numbers hoping to match the numbers drawn. Players try different strategies: they ‘chase’ the numbers, betting the numbers that haven’t been hit recently, or they just ‘wait’ for the numbers to come to them. Some people play birthdays or other ‘lucky’ numbers, some let the computer pick random numbers. One of the most popular plays is to pick a whole column or row.
All any of us can really be sure of is that the areas that are being ‘ignored’ will eventually catch up and get hit more heavily and vice-versa. Combinations that haven’t come in, will come in -sometimes sooner, sometimes later. This is the way Lotto has always been and it has been more than enough of a challenge for gamblers since it first appeared on the scene. In fact, everywhere it is played it is a HOUSE favorite for that very reason! It makes a lot of money for the House just the way it is…BUT apparently that wasn’t good enough for the folks at Tattersalls!
Lotto games in Victoria is no longer a single, continuous game, it is in reality TWO SEPARATE GAMES OF Lotto, randomly alternated!! In the beginning they used One Machine and one set of Lotto Balls. The first live televised Tattersall’s Tattslotto draw occurred on June 22, 1972. Now a household institution, Australian Tattslotto today offers a Division One prize pool averaging more than $3 million – a far cry from the top prize of $50,000 when it began in 1972.
Since the early days of Tattslotto, Superdraws have skyrocketed the First Division prize pools to figures well over $20 million.
The Days of One Random Number Generator
At one time just like the rest of the Lotto world, Tattersalls used one random number generator for it’s Lotto game. In those days, their Lotto was just like Lotto everywhere else.
It is important to know that there is a big difference between hitting 6 out of 6 and hitting 5 out of 6.
They don’t want us to know..they don’t want the normal continuity that has been inherent in Lotto since it began!
Lotto in Australia is no longer a single, continuous game, it is in reality TWO SEPARATE GAMES OF LOTTO, randomly alternated!!
Dennis, I have trimmed your numerous recent comments into one relevant comment. I get the gist of your approach, but remain confused regarding your motives and what you hope to accomplish. Worse still, I am beginning to suspect you as a Government stooge/lackey determined to bog my site down with repetitive misleading crap.
As mentioned previously, I am quite happy with Saliu’s approach, and remain unconvinced of any other. If you wish to progress with me further in a meaningful way, its time to put up or shut up. Can you demonstrate in a practical way the value of your ideas, or are you just an armchair analyst/dreamer?
Generate some Number picks for upcoming Lotto or Powerball draws and I will post them here as an article, under any pseudonym you like.
G
Private conversations ensued, with this commenter Dennis Calafati, who proved to be a foul mouthed mean and cruel spammer, determined to prove the work of Ion Saliu was rubbish, all he proved was his lack of understanding.
G Network recommends avoiding this person, who is about to have his details passed on to relevant internet blacklists, and his email/internet providers notified accordingly, should he choose to continue his silly attacks on G Network.
I recently came across your blog and have been reading along. I thought I would leave my first comment. I don’t know what to say except that I have enjoyed reading. Nice blog. I will keep visiting this blog very often.
Betty
Hi everyone,
I’ve just enjoyed reading the above comments.
I will look into the work of Ion Saliu, however, one thing that I was curious about, does anyone know who manufactures the Victorian tattslotto machines & balls, and how often they replenish the old balls and the two machines ?
Just a variable factor I’m interested in.
If anyone could help out with some true facts, or provide me with a contact to call to ask, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks heaps
Mary
Hi you can call Mr. Kim Tierny The Victorian Government Supervisor resident at Tattersalls and ask him to send u copies of the draw rosters that show the patterns that they swap machines every draw..you can ask him questions and he will answer them ,,so call this following number and ask for him..
Tattersall’s House
615 St. Kilda Road
Melbourne VIC 3004
+61 3 8517 7777 (Monday to Friday 8am-5pm AEDT)
Dear Sir,
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I hope that you will assist me in respect of my request from you. I look forward hearing from you soon.
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Hey guys. you guys said that lotto balls have no memory right . so they can’t remember what happened before. for example nr 1 appeard with nr 7. so in the future nr 1 will appear with nr 7 cause those two balls can’t remember what happened. so thats why winning numbers does repeat. so it does help to choose past winning numbers that happened a few months back or long time ago.
Hi Corne, I don’t quite follow your reasoning, but yes, pairs can repeat. In lotto games we occasionally get pairs and triples reappear, and reappear again. In lotto analysis we can also track the skips of pairs and triples, and when successfully hit we may have up to half the numbers correct for whole game/s. Its a good feeling to have 2 or 3 numbers correct, especially if included in every game played – Prizes suddenly become much easier to win!
One strategy I use, is that if there is a strong standout number, I will put several games on, that include pairs/triples of the standout number. Then when it hits with its pair or triple, prizes are more probable, in Powerball only 3 main numbers are required for a prize, or 2 main numbers plus the powerball.
If you want to play particular pairs/triples that have hit previously, you can track the skips, and even skip medians, of your chosen combinations. Then forecast the next likely period for repeat. Play your window, say over 5 draws or so. I look for combinations that have a small skip median, and that haven’t hit for a long time. Then play the combination after its next hit, for a number of draws equal to skip median of the number.
If you successfully pick a “triple” combination, and have it in every game, each game of Powerball played will have a prize, as only 3 numbers are required to win a prize, imagine every game a winner! Get the other 2 numbers on Powerball pays ~$50,000-$250,000 for 2nd division prize. The 5 numbers PLUS the powerball is 1st division Jackpot, $3million – $100million+.
Good luck with it.
Interesting comments. Can you show an example of how the skip works with say 36,42,18.
Sure. Here is the output from Saliu’s MDIEditor & LottoWE – of Skips (number of draws between hits), Sorted Skips (lowest to highest), and Skip Median (Number repeats again within the Skip Median 50%+ of the time) – for your chosen numbers 18,36,42 in Powerball.
Sampling size is the last 130 draws (see Powerball results):
* ‘Regular-5’ # 18 * Hits: 18
——————————-
* Skips >>>>> 0 9 6 17 6 3 7 7 2 8 4 13 7 0 0 3 0 19
* Sorted Skips: 0 0 0 0 2 3 3 4 6 6 7 7 7 8 9 13 17 19
** Skip Median: 6
* ‘Regular-5’ # 36 * Hits: 15
——————————-
* Skips >>>>> 21 2 1 4 10 9 21 0 0 6 1 2 2 3 13
* Sorted Skips: 0 0 1 1 2 2 2 3 4 6 9 10 13 21 21
** Skip Median: 3
* ‘Regular-5’ # 42 * Hits: 19
——————————-
* Skips >>>>> 1 4 4 1 7 6 5 13 1 7 12 6 8 5 13 4 2 7 1
* Sorted Skips: 1 1 1 1 2 4 4 4 5 5 6 6 7 7 7 8 12 13 13
** Skip Median: 5
An example of how you could use this to advantage, would best be shown by your chosen number 36. Notice it has a Skip Median of 3, that is, it repeats again WITHIN 4 draws, half the time – 3 is a nice skip median. Notice also that its most recent Skip is 21, and appears quite “pregnant”. So I would say it is a good number to use in Powerball games, for up to 4 draws AFTER its next hit, as it will likely strike quickly again after its next hit (within 4 draws). If it fails to appear again within 4 draws of its next hit, you would leave it alone, and re-assess its stats when it does hit again (Saliu’s methods are dynamic in nature).
Further to this, we could use a grid, composed of top pairings associated with the given number, 36, knowing that most of the time the number tends to hit WITH one or more of its top paired numbers (within a given sampling, and dynamically changing with time). For ease of use, the function GRID.PB5 in MDIEditor & LottoWE will produce it with just a couple of clicks.
#36 Top Pairings: 21 33 14 16 19
So we could play the following pairs for 4 draws AFTER the 36 hits:
36,21
36,33
36,14
36,16
36,19
Success with only one of these pairs, would yield one game with 2 winning numbers for every 5 games played (guaranteed), and one winning number in all games, not a bad start. There are many variations possible on these themes, and lots more work to do too!
Hope this helps, Ron.
Further to my previous comment:
The number 36 just made its appearance in last week’s Powerball draw (02/09/2010). Now we could update our details, and include it as a number for the next few draws. Here is updated info for number 36.
* ‘Regular-5’ # 36 * Hits: 16
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* Skips >>>>> 0 24 2 1 4 10 9 21 0 0 6 1 2 2 3 13
* Sorted Skips: 0 0 0 1 1 2 2 2 3 4 6 9 10 13 21 24
** Skip Median: 2
Notice that since its recent hit, the Skip Median is now 2, so we would include it for the next 3 draws only.
If you want to try pairs for advantage…
#36 Top Pairings: 21 33 39 16 19
So you could play the following pairs for the next 3 draws:
36,21
36,33
36,39
36,16
36,19
I personally favour smaller numbers for tomorrow night’s draw (<34), but still like the look of #36 hitting within next few draws.
The 3 draws results:
1 4 24 25 35 36
6 15 17 26 44 27
7 12 17 33 35 12
Notice the #35 hit twice (one off), and the #36 hit as the powerball last week, close, but no #36 as a main number, so we would drop the #36 for now.
Even though the 2 barrels used in a Powerball game are not directly related (one barrel for pick 5 main numbers, one barrel for the powerball) sometimes we may see main numbers picked appear as the powerball, and sometimes the powerball selected appear in main numbers.
For forecasting purposes, I treat the Australian Powerball as 2 distinct but co-existing games – one game is a simple Pick 5 from 45 numbers (odds ~ 1:1.2million), one game is pick powerball 1 from 45 numbers (odds 1:45).
The powerball number itself is subject to skip patterns which at times form clusterings of extreme fluctuations, exteme from normal that is. This can lead to easier forecasting of potentials in the right skip range, to be played as numbers for the powerball itself.
As relating to this discussion, last year I worked on a Powerball game where I narrowed down the powerball to come from 1 of 6 potential numbers (within a skip range), I even tipped them to a friend (play these 6 numbers for the powerball itself). Well, what a strange result we saw… the powerball number had hit just off one of mine, so I failed in picking the actual powerball – but the surprise was that 5 of my 6 powerball numbers actually HIT as the 5 main numbers!!! Had I just played one System 6 Powerball game with my 6 powerball numbers, wow, a 2nd division prize (~$50,000-$250,000). Strange coincidence? Powerball can be a funny game like that.
i want to know if how to compute to get 6digits in 55 numbers,,,,,and i want to know if how to compute the syndicate number in KENO..THANKS AND MORE POWER….
hi Jovelyn, just what do you mean “compute 6 digits in 55 numbers”? and “how to compute the syndicate number in KENO”?
are you after odds, or tips? if so, could you please send me a link / game info.
G.
Powerball has 3 barrels in total, 2 of which are used to conduct each draw. These barrels alternate in sequence with every draw. There are 3 sets of main number (blue balls) and 3 sets of Powerball (silver) balls. These sets are also alternated with each draw. The barrel rotation sequence for Powerball is 1-2, 3-1, 1-3, 2-1, 3-2, 2-3. This is then repeated from the beginning of the sequence. E.G. for Powerball (Draw #607) barrel 1 was used for drawing the main numbers and barrel 2 for drawing the Powerball. The following week (Draw #608) used barrel 3 for the main barrel and barrel 1 for the Powerball. (Draw #609) used barrel 1 for drawing the main numbers and barrel 3 for the Powerball.etc.
On the subject of seperate data for each machine, for lotto and powerball draws, I am convinced that a POOL of random numbers works fine, as in the end, its ALL random numbers. We are looking for specific variations or some “order” in the random. I believe that as long as the field size is the same, it matters not how they are drawn. I have seen this in real life too many times.When playing roulette, you could track one wheel, or you could track a row of 10 wheels, it doesn’t matter, they will all conform to law, and extreme
variations will be lining them up for a more predictable outcome. Just
do the work, you will SEE it happen time after time. Number must
balance to zero.
So in answer to you Dennis, I don’t care if Tattersals use 1000
machines or more, they will ALL CONFORM TO LAWS OF PROBABILITY, and any
EXTREMES will stick out like dogs balls.
ION SALIU SAYS>
3. The Probability Theory and the Mechanical Elements
There is another caveat regarding probability. Is the Fundamental Formula of Gambling still valid IF we change the coins from one toss to the next? Are the probability formulas still true when the lottery commissions changes the ball sets of the drawing machine?
The answer is YES. The probability formulas don’t give a damn about the mechanics. The p, and n, and N, and DC are abstracts. They are numbers. The probability to get ‘heads’ is 1/2 or 0.5. The p doesn’t care what coin was tossed. The denomination or the nationality of the coin don’t matter at all. The only requirement is that the coin is unbiased. In fact, the probability would love to have a new coin every time, for every toss. Thus, the unbiased requirement is satisfied. A coin will get biased after a number of tosses (yes, the material, the metal is important!)
One more important requirement is the SERIAL factor. The experiments (trials, coin tosses, etc.) must be serial. They come ONE AFTER ANOTHER. The probability formulae take into account one serial event at a time. The opposite is parallel events. For example, two coins are tossed at the same time. The events are parallel. The only way we can research them is to record every coin separately. You conduct an absurdity if you record the spins of several roulette wheels as a single phenomenon.
There is a situation that triggers plenty of questions. I get emails regarding the two daily drawings in the pick 3, 4 lotteries. For example, the Pennsylvania lottery conducts a mid–day drawing and an evening drawing in the pick-3 and pick 4 lotteries games. Thus, the drawings are serial, not parallel. One can consider the pick 3 game as one game. Record the mid-day drawings and the evening drawing in the same database. At the same time, I am right if I keep separate records, and thus view the drawings as two different games.
In fact, every lottery game is a multiple game. They draw several times, before the official drawings. The pre–official drawings and the official drawing represent a serial phenomenon. But I would not record all the fake drawings in my database. The only thing that the multiple draws influence is the timing of a strategy. With or without multiple drawings, no phenomenon can escape the Fundamental Formula of Gambling.
By the way, I used to record the mid–day drawings and the evening drawings in the same database. But I gave up. I only record the evening drawings in the pick–3 and pick–4 games. It’s about a working schedule. I work the first shift, therefore I am unable to play the mid–day game(s). If one works the second shift, then I recommend to play the mid–day game, not the evening edition.
Like I sez, big books can be filled on these topics. Randomness and Certainty are fighting brutal wars every split of a second, of every second, and minute, and hour, and day, and week, and terrestrial year, and century, and millennium, and era, and galactic era, and universal era … ad infinitum. Each and every one of us might die tomorrow — absolutely unexpectedly and randomly. But should we give up all of our strategies and systems of living because the unfavorable odds are non-zero? NOT! NON!
Yet, filling big books with all kinds of formulas and strategies can have consequences. I was directed to a forum in Romania. There was a post by a Romanian journalist who had contacted me regarding my activity. The journalist had also interviewed another Romanian, a casino executive. That executive of the association of the casinos in Romania was sent to study at a curious “education” facility. It is the so–called University of Gambling in Nevada! The executive told the reporter that he had knowledge of two Romanian Americans who are on the black list of every casino in the United States. The first Romanian American is a most dangerous player regarding cheating in the casino. It’s not me, by the dog in Egypt I swear. I am the second Romanian American on the black list of every casino in the USA. I am blacklisted because I am supposed to possess every winning formula for every type of gambling! I swear by the dog in Egypt, I bear it as a badge of honor my being blacklisted for the sole motive of my knowledge by all the casinos in the great land of the US of A!
When playing roulette, you could track one wheel, or you could track a row of 10 wheels, it doesn’t matter, they will all conform to law, and extreme
variations will be lining them up for a more predictable outcome. Just
do the work, you will SEE it happen time after time. Number must
balance to zero.
So in answer to you Dennis, I don’t care if Tattersals use 1000
machines or more, they will ALL CONFORM TO LAWS OF PROBABILITY, and any
EXTREMES will stick out like dogs balls.
ION SALIU says..
One more important requirement is the SERIAL factor. The experiments (trials, coin tosses, etc.) must be serial. They come ONE AFTER ANOTHER. The probability formulae take into account one serial event at a time. The opposite is parallel events. For example, two coins are tossed at the same time. The events are parallel. The only way we can research them is to record every coin separately.
You conduct an absurdity if you record the spins of several roulette wheels as a single phenomenon.
You conduct an absurdity if you record the results of several lotto barrels and ball sets as a single phenomenon.
Serial Phenomenon
Hi Dennis, as you know, most of your comments are spammed here at G Network, but as you have cleaned up your act, I post anything original or of interest, don’t send too many.
You say:
I know we have covered all this before, so let this be the intelligent agreed summation of the matter of “serial phenomenon”.
Ion Saliu says:
See below, I quote from the same page you quote, showing the validity not absurdity of tracking games as “serial phenomenon” conforming to FFG.
Ion Saliu says:
Source: Probability Caveats in Lotto, Lottery, Gambling, Life, Sports
So in final answer to you Dennis, the method I use for tracking/analysis is validated by Saliu’s FFG, and life experience. Treating ALL Powerball draws as ONE GAME (regardless of how many barrels they use!) and doing same with Lotto Australia and Oz Lotto is fine. If you choose to track/analysis on a per barrel basis, thats fine too. I would say, if one wanted to track and play just Saturday Lotto, that would be fine too, as no phenomenon can escape the Fundamental Formula of Gambling. By the way, have you got the results databases up for per barrel draws for those interested, I will link to that if available.
You mentioned also the same absurdity with roulette, actually quoted from Saliu. I would agree that when playing a system like Saliu’s Roulette system, and many others, it is almost essential to track and play on only one table. My roulette system is a hybrid based on a system I was shown many years ago. Taught, not just in theory, but live on real casino tables. I learnt as I played together with my clever friend. I turned an initial $100 stake, into $2800 in a few weeks – it was earn while you learn! I have since polished the system. Only my closest friends know anything of it, and yes it is based on tracking numerous wheels, and yes it has won me substantial sums. I also have a one-wheel version, but the multi-wheel system is far more potent. It does NOT treat all the wheels as ONE game, but seperate games, where I search for a particular extreme scenario to line up on one wheel, that is the one that is played (with only its statistics being relevant for purposes of play). So really, I treat these as “Parallel Phenomena”, therefore not absurd. I have thought about releasing the system, but its worth a lot more to me than I could sell it for. I won’t play seriously in a casino these days unless I walk in with good money, as a series of wins in roulette tends to draw attention, I find its better to play hard for a while then leave.
G Roulette Quickinfo:
+ 39 wins from 40 sessions of play (only lost once)
+ 18% Average Profit per session
+ Easy split banks as backups
+ Tracks as many wheels as possible watching for a particular scenario. Play for an event to hit within a number of draws.
+ Watch, Play, Win, Leave.
I trust this ends the discussion on the whole matter of “serial phenomenon” – they will ALL conform to FFG. We can honour eachothers approach now, and get on with the job of winning a jackpot!
And to that end, here is my tip for a likely event to occur within the next 3 Powerball draws – this can provide quite an advantage:
TIP Powerball Draws 785, 786, 787
EXCLUDE all numbers above 33 = INCLUDE all numbers 1-33 only
G
http://www.lottoposter.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=638&FID=46&PR=3
Analysis of Lotto Draw History – the Final Word
by Colin Fairbrother
There is no way of telling the start or end of a Lotto history or whether it has been jumbled up without knowing the draw dates or draw IDs which means there is no intrinsic order to the draws – it is simply a bucket of numbers. For a particular time of the day you could set 100 machines or computers to start at exactly the same time and the chances are they will all be different numbers. No result is more valid than another and to resolve this scenario a random selection from the 100 results is needed.
The heyday of interest in discussing Lotto in on-line forums and in particular about using the history of draws to determine the numbers to play peaked around 2005. Practically all the many thousands of sites on Lotto number analysis are about assuming a relationship between a draw and the draws previous to that which as I will show is utter bunkum and is really the stuff of numerology with their penchant for errant ersatz science, mathematics and statistics.
You still have freaky people that actually believe that from the history of draws for a particular Lotto game the next jackpot number can be narrowed down. This of course is based on the erroneous assumption mentioned above that there is a relationship between the history and the next draw. Interestingly, give someone a single draw result or a set and a choice between a number of draw histories and they wouldn’t be able to pick the relevant history without knowing the answer or looking it up. The point being that whatever positive one comes up with could be similarly achieved by using any like history.
There are two principles to keep in mind when discussing the history of draws for a Lotto game: –
Order is just a convention. Lotto operators normally present the results in numerical order but some show the numbers in the order drawn. For each draw with six main numbers there are 720 ways it can be drawn. Order is about permutations so while in a 6/49 game there are 13,983,816 combinations of 6 integers there are 10,068,347,520 permutations and similarly for a 6/45 game 8,145,060 combinations and 5,864,443,200 permutations. For say a 6/45 game a set of numbers can be randomized by simply varying the order of the integers and transposing eg _
10 20 30 40 01 11 21 31 41 02 12 22 32 42 03 13 23 33 43 04 14 24 34 44 05 15 25 35 45 06 16 26 36 07 17 27 37 08 18 28 38 09 19 29 39
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Occurrence is proportional to the representation of the integers in the categorization. The best results are obtained where close to or all the integers are used. Apart from categorizing the integers by their recency and occurrence in the immediate past history others are summing the integers, classifying the numbers as high, low or medium and using the six combination possibilities for Odd or Even in a Pick 6 game. I have shown for all categorizations that the proportionality is maintained and nothing is gained.
It should be mentioned as I have previously shown that if you played half the possibilities – 4,072,530 for a 6/45 and 6,991,908 for a 6/49 ie 50% chance of getting the main numbers – you can still go 9 or 10 draws without success – similar to tossing a coin and getting 9 or 10 of the same side consecutively.
I posted this one Dennis, for interest. Are you still on about this topic? It is easier to destroy, than to create. We can easily put down everybody’s system as being a fallacy or similar, but in the end, what do you say? How do you use the data to help win the jackpot? Do you still believe that miniscule ball bias will make a noticable difference over time? and if so, how do you use this to get any significant advantage?
All these armchair theorists will rot in their chairs before they win a jackpot! With theories like Colin’s, we may as well all buy Quickpicks and cross fingers, pray to the easter bunny, etc. that we might win.
In real life everyday, I see FFG at work. I witness extremes and re-balancing in all systems, time after time, without fail – and yes, most of them are predictable to an extent as elucidated in FFG. It really works, ALL NUMBER conforms to LAW – in real life! Let the theorists please their own intellect, I will learn from nature and life, which shows me how it really works. The same as Probability “p” can be determined, so can DC in a series of events and will always conform to this.
Saliu has it right, most people cannot comprehend the difference between “p” and “DC”, and this is evident in their writings. Oh well, you can lead the seeker to ideas, but you cant make them think…
G
Ha George, ive given you the reality..use it to win your jackpot..i think if u put your data into your program according to the fundamental truth as i have disclosed to you..you may even win that jackpot..
by the way.tonights ozlotto7..play or wheel numbers 1 to 9..i see its way overdue for a win this group maybe even 3 may appear from 1 to 9…according to the statistical truth
my two cents
Dennis, I have spammed 18 comments from you this week. If you want to have further comments approved, try this:
1. one or two comment a day is plenty – do too many, will get spammed.
2. keep them concise/brief, to the point, and respectful
3. discuss YOUR ideas – quotes from others are ok, but not for 99% of the comment – do your own original ideas.
4. forget about bagging Ion or anyone else here, as these guys are actually having a go, and we should commend them – they are just trying to pop the jackpot like you – all help is appreciated
5. be creative and make this world better for us all… if one destroys everyone elses validity, one is left standing alone.
PS: only one number hit from your predicted 1-9 last night. I reckon Oz may see a draw with very low numbers (highest number in the 20’s) within next 20-30 or so draws (~6mths), which would give great advantage excluding up to 50% of the field.
G
Dennis, as you continue to flagrantly assault all guidelines 1 to 5 above, all comments are spammed/junked. As much as I like to approve interesting comments (they help improve page ranking), you are not producing any, and the foul language used in your more delirious moments, would only demote this site.
Chill out, try the camomile tea we discussed before, it is relaxing, bathing in it should do the trick!
Dennis, I have met people like the one’s you quote extensively, that state that Lotto can not be won by forecasting methods – and they usually don’t win anything much. If you want to believe this, your choice, but you sabotage yourself from the beginning (like a curse). How can we successfully pick the winning jackpot numbers if we don’t believe we can? Have you asked yourself this yet? if not, sit down and ask yourself now. Best to agree with yourself that you CAN WIN, and you CAN pick the right numbers for the jackpot, is’nt it?
Try this for an idea:
Start out thinking you WILL likely win the jackpot, in your lifetime, this is the goal. Use and test in real life (not just equations), as many intelligent Lotto/Powerball systems as you can get your hands on – keep records to guage success – refine the methods that produce greatest advantage. Let your creative mind guide you to even better ideas, your own discoveries that keep producing favorable results. Keep working at it from there, as it may take 10 years or longer even with “leveraged probability” to have a reasonable chance at winning the jackpot.
It is possible, even with this approach, that you will never win the jackpot, but at least it gives you a decent go at it, and aligns your entire being with a winning approach.
G